What Does the Bible Say About Christian Unity?

Westside Gainesville •
June 25, 2026

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James and John once asked Jesus for the two best seats in the kingdom. A few decades later, John sits down to write his gospel and includes a prayer where Jesus asks the Father for something else entirely on behalf of people James and John would never meet. Us, two thousand years later, in Gainesville.

This episode was recorded on Father’s Day, and it shows. Pastor David Chauncey and Pastor Richie Baldwin spend most of it on John 17:20–26 — the part of the prayer where Jesus shifts from praying for the eleven disciples in the room to praying for everyone who’d believe because of them.

A PRAYER FOR GRANDCHILDREN

Pastor David frames the shift simply: in verses 6–19, Jesus prays for his children — the eleven disciples. In verses 20–26, his attention turns to the grandchildren — everyone who would believe through the disciples’ testimony. That includes every believer who has ever lived since.

What does Jesus pray for this future family? Not health, happiness, or a good job — the things most fathers instinctively pray for their kids. He prays for unity (“that they may be one”, repeated several times) and proximity (“that they also may be with me where I am” — John 17:24). One in unity here on earth. One with him in eternity forever.

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THREE REASONS WE OVER ME MATTERS

Pastor David draws three threads out of the passage. First, unity reflects the divine — when believers surrender their own desires for the good of others, they put God’s relational, self-giving nature on display. Second, unity reaches the world: “Make them one, Father, so that the world will know that you love me and that you sent me” (John 17:21,23). Disunity actively undercuts the testimony believers are trying to give. Third, unity recognizes our future — because we are guaranteed an eternal home with the Father, it becomes easier to sacrifice now, knowing the outcome is already secure.

He illustrates the power of unified testimony with the World Cup: stadiums full of fans from Mexico, Scotland, and beyond singing their national anthems with total, unembarrassed unity — a single voice, completely given over to one allegiance. That, he says, is the kind of undivided allegiance God wants from the people he has called out for himself.

TRANSFORMATIONAL DISCIPLESHIP IS RELATIONAL, NOT DIGITAL

Richie’s sermon at Southwest leaned into discipleship as the practical outworking of we over me. His foundation: Romans 12:2 — don’t be conformed to the world, but transformed. Conformity is easy. Transformation is impossible apart from the power of God working through discipleship — and discipleship, he insists, has to be relational. You can’t get it from YouTube.

He quotes Robert Coleman’s The Master Plan of Evangelism: God’s plan A was for the gospel to spread through ordinary people. There is no plan B. Jesus modeled this by narrowing his focus — from thousands, to twelve, to three, to one beloved disciple. Real discipleship happens life-on-life, shoulder-to-shoulder, one-on-one.

Richie cites Brett McCracken’s Scrolling Ourselves to Death: the suicide rate among kids ages 10–24 has risen 62% since 2007 — the same year the iPhone debuted. His point isn’t that phones are evil, but that the digital age is actively pulling people away from the relational discipleship Jesus modeled and commanded.

A MISSION STATEMENT FOR FATHERS

David highlights John 17:26 as a mission statement for dads: “I have made known your name to them, and will make it known, so that the love with which you loved me may be in them.” His hope for his own kids: to make God known to them through Christ so that the love he has experienced with God becomes the love they experience too. It is not a task to complete. It is a desire to be lived.

Think of David, Solomon, and Rehoboam — a father trusting an imperfect son with everything, generation after generation. In John 17, God the Father entrusts everything to God the Son, who entrusts it to us. The trust runs all the way down to Gainesville, Florida, today.

Theological Triage | What We Have to Agree On

If unity matters so much, why are there so many denominations? Richie introduces Albert Mohler’s concept of theological triage — like a medical triage, doctrines are sorted by urgency. Primary doctrines are life-or-death: salvation by grace through faith in Christ alone, the deity of Christ, the resurrection. Pull out those pillars and the faith collapses entirely — it isn’t Christianity anymore.

Secondary doctrines — like the mode of baptism — shape which church you join and disciple within, but don’t determine whether someone is a Christian. Tertiary doctrines, like views on the millennium, are things believers can disagree on while still worshipping together on a Sunday morning.

Pastor David notes that in decades of ministry, he has rarely counseled anyone who struggled to become a Christian because of denominational differences — but he has met many who struggle because Christians don’t look different from the world.

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Richie’s Sermon: Surrender, Serve, Saturate Richie’s three-point framework for the Southwest campus sermon moved in a clean progression. First: surrender to the transformation given by God’s word. When Josiah found the Book of the Law and heard it read, he didn’t evaluate it or fact-check it against the existing cultural consensus. He tore his clothes — an ancient sign of grief and repentance — because the word revealed exactly where Judah stood before God, and his heart was tender enough to receive that. Second: serve for greater impact. The word didn’t just change Josiah internally. He read it to all the people of Judah, made a public covenant before God, and then went out and purged the land of idols — not just in Jerusalem, but up into the ruins of the northern kingdom that had been destroyed a hundred years earlier. At the end of the sermon, Richie turned on every bulb in the Alachua sign that Southwest had deliberately dimmed. That’s what he wanted the church to do: saturate their world with what they’d received. Third: saturate the world with the word. He pointed to Isaiah 59 — Isaiah, who was warning Manasseh during his worst years, who could see the injustice and corruption and knew judgment was coming — and to the greater king even than Josiah that Isaiah could see arriving on the horizon. The charge to the church, and especially to the students in the room on Gator Day: be like Josiah. Take the word out. Go on mission.Learn more about Life Groups What David Preached: Seek, Tear Down, Build, Surround Beau’s recap of the Newberry Road campus sermon covered David’s four-point framework through the generational chairs lens he’s used all series: committed, compromised, cultural, collapsed. Josiah inherited the worst possible chair — collapsed, after 55 years of Manasseh and two more of Amon — and reversed it because he was willing to seek God for himself before he fully understood why. David opened with the Second Great Awakening. After the Revolutionary War, church attendance in America dropped from around 45% to somewhere between 5% and 10%. A poll at Harvard found zero students willing to identify as believers. Yale had five. Then Isaac Backus started a prayer meeting. Timothy Dwight became Yale’s president and started preaching in defense of Scripture’s authority. What started with one person became the Second Great Awakening, and the church grew ten times faster than the population. Same pattern as Josiah. It starts with one. The four points: seek God for yourself — Josiah started at 16, before he found the book, because something in him knew things were wrong. Tear down what pulls you back — but know what you’re replacing it with, because a hole is still a hole. Build your life on God’s word — Josiah tore down idols and then found the book at 26, and the book is what told him what to build on instead. Surround yourself with people who will help you — Josiah had Shaphan, Hilkiah, Huldah, Jeremiah, and Zephaniah. He wasn’t doing it alone.How can we pray for you? Why Was the Bible in the Rafters? This is the most surprising question in the whole story, and Richie spent real time on it. The answer, in his reading: the Levites. The priests and Levites were the ones charged with administering God’s word to the people, interceding between the congregation and God. The prophets ran in the opposite direction — bringing God’s voice to the people. But the Levites, beginning with the split kingdom and accelerating through Manasseh’s reign, stopped doing their job. They put the word on a shelf and filled the temple with everything else. Richie traced this thread all the way from Judges 19 — the grotesque collapse of a Levite at the very end of the book of Judges, showing how far the priests had already fallen before Israel even had kings — to Ezekiel 22 and 34, where God pronounces specific judgment on the shepherds who failed to feed the people. The breadcrumbs were there the whole time. Hilkiah finding the book in the temple isn’t a random discovery. It’s the providence of God routing his word around the people who were supposed to guard it, to get it into Josiah’s hands. “The Josiahs of the world had to find it. Praise God that he found a way to get him his word — but you have failed in so many ways.” — Pastor Richie Baldwin (summarizing Ezekiel’s charge to the Levites) Deconstruction vs. Tearing Down Idols Beau asked the question directly: what’s the difference between what Josiah was doing — tearing down idols, reforming the culture, removing what his grandfathers built — and what gets called deconstruction today? From the outside, the actions look the same. Richie’s answer went to Romans 12:2: do not be conformed, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind. The problem with deconstruction, as it’s most often practiced, is that it handles the nonconformity part without the transformation. Something gets removed. Nothing gets put in its place. A hole is still a hole. Josiah tore down the Baals and found the book. He knew what he was building on. The dangerous version is when someone dismantles biblical morality, marriage, or the gospel itself — thinking they’re removing hypocrisy, but actually removing the foundation. Richie applied it to his own story: he came from the Roman Catholic tradition and had real things he needed to deconstruct about what the church had taught him. But he did it by holding everything up against Scripture and asking what God’s word actually said. The rock stays. The idols go. Ephesians 2:20–21 is the frame: the whole structure is built on the cornerstone of Jesus Christ, and it’s in him that everything is joined together. Why Huldah and Not Jeremiah? When Josiah’s people needed to inquire of God, they went to Huldah — a prophetess, wife of the royal wardrobe keeper, living in Jerusalem — and not to Jeremiah, who was active during Josiah’s reign and would go on to write the longest book in the Bible by word count. Beau asked why. Richie’s honest answer: Jeremiah may have been more prominent after Josiah, not during. Things were going relatively well under Josiah. The prophets who speak most clearly in crisis tend to surface when things get worse, and Jeremiah’s heaviest work came during and after the exile. Huldah was well-respected, clearly heard from God, and gave Josiah exactly what he needed: confirmation that God had heard his tender heart and was giving Judah more time. Frederick Douglass and a Sunday School Class of 40 People Richie’s addition to Beau’s Second Great Awakening recap was Frederick Douglass — a man who didn’t even know his own birthday. As a slave, the first thing Douglass wanted when he learned to read was the New Testament, because he didn’t just believe slavery was wrong. He wanted to know what God’s word said about it. He started teaching 40 people — fellow slaves, meeting in secret for a Sunday school class — and that circle eventually multiplied into one of the most influential voices in American history, including a close advisory relationship with Abraham Lincoln. The through-line Richie drew: Josiah changes things starting with the word. Frederick Douglass changes things starting with the word. The Second Great Awakening changes things starting with one person who was obedient to the word. The pattern is the same every time. James and David | The Baptism That Closed the Episode Beau closed the episode by telling the story of a baptism from the 9:30 service that morning. A man named James, who grew up with a not-so-good spiritual legacy — physical abuse, the foster care system, no model of what a functional family looked like. Through a series of events, he got a job working for a company that made him feel like family. He started seeing what a dinner table without yelling looked like. He eventually gave his life to Christ and was baptized that morning by David. Josiah looked back to David as the committed chair — the model he couldn’t find in his own family tree. James looked back to David as the model he didn’t have either. The parallel wasn’t planned. It was just the story of a Sunday.Westside Stories Also in this episode Gator Day Sunday at Westside — the energy of welcome week, students back in Gainesville, overflow at Southwest The generational chairs (committed → compromised → cultural → collapsed) and how Josiah entered the throne at the collapsed point Richie’s observation that the story of Josiah’s sons shows how quickly revival can be reversed — his first son after him “put the word back on the shelf” within a few years Psalm 72 as the messianic psalm the people were praying — begging for a king who would actually be just — and how verse 17 points all the way to Christ Richie fell in the baptistery on Sunday. He got a very cold bath. 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Josiah’s reform and what gets called “deconstruction” today can look similar from the outside — both involve removing things that have been built up over time. The critical difference is what happens next. Josiah tore down the idols and built on the word of God — he knew what he was replacing them with. Deconstruction, as often practiced, removes things without identifying what to build on instead. Romans 12:2 captures the biblical framework: do not be conformed to the world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind. Both halves are required. Removing false things is part of the Christian life. But the cornerstone — Jesus Christ himself (Ephesians 2:20) — is not one of the things available for removal. Anything built on something other than that cornerstone, or built on nothing at all, is not reformation. It’s collapse. Who Was Huldah the Prophetess in the Bible? Huldah appears in 2 Kings 22 and 2 Chronicles 34 as the prophetess consulted when Josiah’s officials found the Book of the Law. She was the wife of Shallum, keeper of the royal wardrobe, and lived in the Second Quarter of Jerusalem. When the king’s delegation brought the newly found book to her, she responded with a direct word from God: judgment on Judah was coming because of the nation’s idolatry, but because Josiah’s heart was tender and he had humbled himself before God, he would not see the coming disaster in his lifetime. Huldah is one of seven female prophets recognized in the Old Testament and is notable for being consulted directly by the royal court, which suggests her prophetic authority was well established and trusted in Jerusalem. Scripture Referenced: 2 Kings 22 • 2 Chronicles 34 • Isaiah 59 • Psalm 72 • Psalm 110 • Romans 12:2 • Ephesians 2:20–21 • John 15 • Ezekiel 34 • Habakkuk 1–2
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What Does the Bible Say About Christian Unity?
James and John once asked Jesus for the two best seats in the kingdom. A few decades later, John sits down to write his gospel and includes a prayer where Jesus asks the Father for something else entirely on behalf of people James and John would never meet. Us, two thousand years later, in Gainesville. This episode was recorded on Father’s Day, and it shows. Pastor David Chauncey and Pastor Richie Baldwin spend most of it on John 17:20–26 — the part of the prayer where Jesus shifts from praying for the eleven disciples in the room to praying for everyone who’d believe because of them. A PRAYER FOR GRANDCHILDREN Pastor David frames the shift simply: in verses 6–19, Jesus prays for his children — the eleven disciples. In verses 20–26, his attention turns to the grandchildren — everyone who would believe through the disciples’ testimony. That includes every believer who has ever lived since. What does Jesus pray for this future family? Not health, happiness, or a good job — the things most fathers instinctively pray for their kids. He prays for unity (“that they may be one”, repeated several times) and proximity (“that they also may be with me where I am” — John 17:24). One in unity here on earth. One with him in eternity forever. How can we pray for you? Let us know by clicking the button below.I need prayer THREE REASONS WE OVER ME MATTERS Pastor David draws three threads out of the passage. First, unity reflects the divine — when believers surrender their own desires for the good of others, they put God’s relational, self-giving nature on display. Second, unity reaches the world: “Make them one, Father, so that the world will know that you love me and that you sent me” (John 17:21,23). Disunity actively undercuts the testimony believers are trying to give. Third, unity recognizes our future — because we are guaranteed an eternal home with the Father, it becomes easier to sacrifice now, knowing the outcome is already secure. He illustrates the power of unified testimony with the World Cup: stadiums full of fans from Mexico, Scotland, and beyond singing their national anthems with total, unembarrassed unity — a single voice, completely given over to one allegiance. That, he says, is the kind of undivided allegiance God wants from the people he has called out for himself. TRANSFORMATIONAL DISCIPLESHIP IS RELATIONAL, NOT DIGITAL Richie’s sermon at Southwest leaned into discipleship as the practical outworking of we over me. His foundation: Romans 12:2 — don’t be conformed to the world, but transformed. Conformity is easy. Transformation is impossible apart from the power of God working through discipleship — and discipleship, he insists, has to be relational. You can’t get it from YouTube. He quotes Robert Coleman’s The Master Plan of Evangelism: God’s plan A was for the gospel to spread through ordinary people. There is no plan B. Jesus modeled this by narrowing his focus — from thousands, to twelve, to three, to one beloved disciple. Real discipleship happens life-on-life, shoulder-to-shoulder, one-on-one. Richie cites Brett McCracken’s Scrolling Ourselves to Death: the suicide rate among kids ages 10–24 has risen 62% since 2007 — the same year the iPhone debuted. His point isn’t that phones are evil, but that the digital age is actively pulling people away from the relational discipleship Jesus modeled and commanded.Connect in a Life Group A MISSION STATEMENT FOR FATHERS David highlights John 17:26 as a mission statement for dads: “I have made known your name to them, and will make it known, so that the love with which you loved me may be in them.” His hope for his own kids: to make God known to them through Christ so that the love he has experienced with God becomes the love they experience too. It is not a task to complete. It is a desire to be lived. Think of David, Solomon, and Rehoboam — a father trusting an imperfect son with everything, generation after generation. In John 17, God the Father entrusts everything to God the Son, who entrusts it to us. The trust runs all the way down to Gainesville, Florida, today. Theological Triage | What We Have to Agree On If unity matters so much, why are there so many denominations? Richie introduces Albert Mohler’s concept of theological triage — like a medical triage, doctrines are sorted by urgency. Primary doctrines are life-or-death: salvation by grace through faith in Christ alone, the deity of Christ, the resurrection. Pull out those pillars and the faith collapses entirely — it isn’t Christianity anymore. Secondary doctrines — like the mode of baptism — shape which church you join and disciple within, but don’t determine whether someone is a Christian. Tertiary doctrines, like views on the millennium, are things believers can disagree on while still worshipping together on a Sunday morning. Pastor David notes that in decades of ministry, he has rarely counseled anyone who struggled to become a Christian because of denominational differences — but he has met many who struggle because Christians don’t look different from the world.Watch the Full EpisodeTake Your Next Step